That leads into another theory that's been floating around since the release of Star Wars: The Force Awakens. This is another debate that has raged on for … As much as a faction of fans will probably hate to admit it, the whole space opera may hinge on Rey’s fate. If Macho Man Randy Savage played Emperor Palpatine in Star Wars - Duration: 1:10. He laughs] Ah, Skywalker.Missed you, have I. Luke Skywalker: So it is time for the Jedi Order to end. ... Rey. ... "REY IS STRONGER THAN ANAKIN DELETE." Your destiny. What's most striking about the theory is the implications it holds. That might be why he never hunted down Luke on Tatooine (or if he tried, he was unsuccessful). She cannot be compared to Anakins potential. The crux of the argument lies in the battle between Obi-Wan and Darth Maul in the third act of The Phantom Menace. Press J to jump to the feed. He has published short stories in several publications including Rooster Republic Press. The quantification of any spiritual ideology is pretty much ridiculous, especially when it’s predicated upon a predetermined level of microbe organisms living in one's body. Rey MORE Powerful than Yoda?? But yea they made Rey a Jedi Powerhouse. I think her matter transfer thing is only something she could do with her dyad partner. You could make a cast of Rey being the strongest Jedi of her generation. Master Kenobi was in control of his fear, anger, jealously, and any other negative emotion that could dim the connection to the Force. 12 Stronger: Ajunta Pall If we did then half the shit in the other movies wouldn’t have happened. Probably would never be as wise as the 900+ year old yoda. i mean if we're just going by the films nothing anakin or obi-wan does is comparable. I’d estimate around 30000. Some things are stronger than blood. Anakin could’ve healed padme or palpatine could’ve healed anakin on mustafar. And lastly, Rey. KEEP READING: Star Wars: The Vintage Collection Hasbro Figures Feature Sith Troopers. Kylo would understandably be high, as he is grandson of Anakin, but 24000 seems a bit high. her and ben when together seem capable of more than any force user we've seen (barring palpatine). Read the comics/novels. 9-A with … Mike Fugere is writer from Virginia Beach, where he lives with his two sons and wife. I'm going to burn it all down. She kept saying “be with me” hoping that Jedi of the past would speak to her. She only defeated him in TFA's because he was a total mess in so many ways. Confronting fear is the destiny of a Jedi. I hate to say but her resume of powers would deems her the most powerful Jedi we’ve seen in film. Fans of the Jedi Order have vouched for the Light Side whereas lovers of the Sith have made it abundantly clear the Dark Side cannot be stymied and will always find a way … with Ben being dead Rey is clearly the strongest force user alive but also compared to … Her and Kylo are actually equal. For the next fourteen years, she awaited her family's return in vain. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. He surrounds himself with massive armies and powerful people like Vader, which make him appear stronger. Too Hard To Tell... For Now - Mace Windu. That means one of two things is true: Either Kenobi was able to suppress his feeling in order to take down Maul, or it he was able use his fear and anger as a strength. They can literally stop people from dying. Is Rey stronger than Luke? Tier: 9-A naturally. Obi Wan Kenobi: Rey. Follow him on his personal Twitter @MikeFugere. looking at it along with the prequels you'd think the ot jedi and sith were weaker than padawan's given the speed and acrobatics we see and how easily objects are moved with the force compared to luke's saber or the x wing, but we know that's not the case, the sequel trilogy dials back the speed and lightsaber combat to put it back to the same level as the ot, but compensates by increasing the force powers effects, (the dyad is used to explain rey and ren's powers being buffed near each other, as rey is able to heal his fatal wound and he is able to resurrect her, something that was considered impossible in the prequels.). Directed and co-written by J.J. Abrams, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker stars Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Lupita Nyong’o, Domhnall Gleeson, Kelly Marie Tran, Joonas Suotamo, Billie Lourd, Keri Russell, Anthony Daniels, Mark Hamill, Billy Dee Williams, Matt Smith and Carrie Fisher, with Naomi Ackie and Richard E. Grant. That implies Ben was stronger in the force user than Palpatine, Yoda and Vader/Anakin (at the time of ESB/ ROTJ). Either Obi-Wan Kenobi is the Forest Gump of Star Wars or else he’s simply just that good. - Duration: 10:05. 1 Depicts a Vibrant Past... and an Already-Dated Future? neither of them can pull the saber closer than the other. But hey, this is Star Wars we’re talking about; it’s an engine that runs on nitpicky holes in logic. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Its … Yoda was peaceful and used violence only when necessary — in defense of himself or others, or to attack a Sith. Who tracked down and dispatched General Grevious, a literal Jedi killing machine? More powerful than Yoda, Luke or even the one prophesied to bring balance to the Force, Anakin Skywalker. If she were to develop her lightning powers, agreed her lightsaber skills (maybe a double lightsaber or 2 single), and simply with age comes maturity and wisdom she has great potential. Rey is not only more powerful than Luke, she possesses the strength of all the Jedi combined. But them being a dyad, and the last of their force lineage it makes them the strongest. We’ve seen Sith Lords test their apprentices time and time again, and the more you examine the relationship between Palpatine and Darth Vader, it quickly become apparent that the former had little faith in the latter. so when we see rey and ren (who are stated to be absurdly strong by luke and palpatine) fight it's hard to judge based on the way they swing as that was a film making decision (in case i'm not being clear, what i mean is if the anakin and obi-wan fight was directed by abrams of johnson it would look very different to what we got). Palpatine doesn’t want any of that. You understand that force heal will rarely be utilized since you have to give up your life force each time. Even Obi-Wan acknowledged fear and anger being pillars of the Dark Side. Like Revenge of the Sith Palpatine would have beat her, so would Windu and Yoda and Anakin (which even John Boyega agreed to). Luke Skywalker: Rey, some things are stronger than blood. Even regular Rey has better force feats than movie Yoda. But one could argue palpatine was the most powerful (held the most power) throughout the 9 movies. Only different in your mind. rey lifting hundreds of rocks is just the escalation of showing someone is strong, as each saga had different power scales. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Who is stronger than Darth Vader? As mentioned previously, this movie is intense and violent. If she continues to grow and is trained by Luke Skywalker’s force ghost, Rey has the potential to become stronger than Vader was. Lmao Rey definitely stronger than movie Yoda. It doesn’t work so she floats down. And one last thing...through the force anything is possible. They are both now the most powerful Force users (though Yoda scared the sh-t out of me in TLJ!). And Anakin was the strongest Force user alive with a higher midichlorian count than even master Yoda, right? He is also the co-creator of the popular comedy Twitter account @a_single_bear. ... (to Rey) 1. WARNING: The following contains spoilers for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, in theaters now.. For decades, debates have raged which side is more powerful than the other in the Star Wars Universe. He cares nothing for the Sith. Over the years, she became a proficient scavenger employed under Unkar Plutt, and had to turn in any piece scrap she could salvage in return for food. She may not currently be… As a result, the closest thing to a “fight” that we’d ever see between these two would have to be started by a confused Rey (confused as she’d have to assume Yoda was an enemy), and it would be over before it began. That’s more than master Yoda” meaning yoda was close to that benchmark. Yoda would be about 19000, because Qui-Gon said “it’s over 20000. Yoda: Rise in the Force. And the most important feat, is she beating fking full power Palpatine... the one dude that just soled an ENTIRE FLEET OF SHIPS by far the most powerful feat in Star wars canon, and for Rey to be even close to that level, not only that but also beating him. But keep in mind that Luke was not connected to the force at that point and he didnt measure her midichlorians either, so there is no way he could have been sure. This theory posits that Obi-Wan Kenobi might be the most powerful Jedi audiences have encountered in the entire saga thus far. The following is what we do know. Thank you and May the Force Be With You! 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Rey Skywalker is a human female scavenger who discovered her latent Force-sensitivity while on a quest to find the legendary Jedi Master Luke Skywalker and bring a new hope to a galaxy on the brink of war. John Talks 13,608 views. It’s a dark side power and in order to use it one must feed it with fear, anger, or hate, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the starwarsspeculation community, Continue browsing in r/starwarsspeculation. But for fans who have been paying attention to the films, and all of the surrounding media, this theory is right on the money, despite a few nitpicky holes in its logic (which are addressed within the theory). Snoke spoke of the balance between light and dark. So I’ll give you one more chance to look away if you haven’t seen Star Wars: Episode IX. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. She was meditating in the first few moments of TROS. You must unlearn what you have learned. Luke Skywalker, (to Rey… It’s nigh impossible to quantify the Force in Star Wars. RELATED: Star Wars Actor Doesn't Believe Fans Who Say They'll Boycott Episode IX. Deep down I believe she may end up being the most powerful Jedi ever. And Anakin was the strongest Force user alive with a higher midichlorian count than even master Yoda, right? And who (aside from Yoda) did we see escape Order 66 in Revenge of the Sith, despite the overwhelming odds? Rey though is a Jedi but Kylo is not a Sith. The film arrives on Dec. 20. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Even greater than Yoda and even greater than Anakin! In previously released films, the idea of anger being a path to the Dark Side was frequently exposed. ... How Yoda plays a key role in Star Wars' new series. 5. luke floated in tlj, so it seems to be a meditative thing as it's only ever seen then, the dyad seems to allow them to be able to effect one another to a greater degree than anyone else, as the force heal on the worm creature heals its wounds, in their case it saves them from death (albeit requiring one of their lives to do so), so it's an equivalent exchange of sorts, the force bond duel shows that it's basically a force version of quantum entanglement, where the actions of 1 effect the person/area around them even when they aren't physically present in the same space. 10:05. Thor: Love and Thunder Set Photos Tease an Alien World, Godzilla vs. Kong’s Trailer Confirms the Crossover’s Bad Guy, Godzilla Vs. 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